Yogi: Sayadaw often says to separate the aversion from the object. But I don’t see the aversion when something hurts in the body or when I see a yogi that I don’t like. It’s so hard to see the aversion apart from the object, to see the aversion and not what hurts.

When I don’t see the aversion separate from the object, it creates new aversion.

Sayadaw: You don’t have to focus on them separately.

If when you’re observing the pain, you can feel the aversion, you just know both – you don’t have to focus on them separately. If you can do that – know both – that’s fine.