Yogi: I’m not sure what you mean by awareness. On the low level, I feel sitting – I feel the objects. Then, there is the other level where the watching mind sees me feeling the sensations.

The 2nd level is more distant to what is seen and I’m not identified with it, not me feeling but there is a feeling.

When you talk about being mindful, which level are you referring to?

Sayadaw: Actually, we use it on both levels – when we’re identified and we try to be aware, we say ‘aware, aware’. When you’re not identified, we also say ‘aware, aware’.

Yogi: So, the objects are not so important; it is the watching mind that is more important.

Sayadaw: That’s right.