Yogi: I’m not sure what you mean by awareness. I experience 2 levels of awareness – when I’m just feeling the sensations and when the watching mind sees me feeling the sensations.

Sayadaw: When you get to that watching mind where there’s freedom and you can know anything, that’s not only awareness, there’s also wisdom there. There’s already wisdom there; that’s why it feels so free and it can know so much so easily.

Once that wisdom fades, you feel yourself down again and just feeling the sensations.

Yogi: To get to the second level, I have to start over again.

Sayadaw: Yes, you always start at the bottom and you work yourself to the top again.