Swiss Retreat 2019 Group Interviews 8 (6:30-9:44)
Yogi: When I start to watch the mental pain, there’s a sense of heading for freedom.
When there are thoughts of the mental pain, and I say that it is thinking, a sense of relief starts to happen like a taste of it; but it is not consistent.
Sayadaw: The freedom is in the sense of the awareness.
Sometimes there can be the grieving, but the mind that is watching it is alright. It allows the mind that is grieving to grieve.
It doesn’t mean that what is being observed or experienced goes away. It means that the experience can be known without being further distressed by it. It doesn’t compound the suffering – the knowing of it is free.